Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder and CEO, Firstgrin, joins us to talk about the role of oral health in whole child health. From fluoride safety and X-rays to bottle habits and access to care, this conversation explores how prevention, education, and early intervention can reduce the most common chronic disease in children -cavities – and build a healthier future from the very first grin.
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Featuring:
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder and CEO, Firstgrin
Host/Producer: Carol Vassar
TRANSCRIPT
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Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (00:12):
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Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (00:36):
We are at HLTH in Las Vegas, and I have a special guest with me today covering a topic that we have never covered before here on the Nemours Well Beyond Medicine Podcast. And that is pediatric dental health. With me is a pediatric dentist, board-certified therein, and it is Ashley Lerman. She is CEO and founder at Firstgrin. You’re also a mom of two, so you’re getting a little firsthand experience with all this learning how to brush teeth kind of thing. So welcome to the podcast.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (01:06):
Thank you so much for having me. Excited to have the conversation, and so happy and proud to be here.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (01:12):
We know that this is a moment parents cherish, and that is that first smile. It’s a toothless grin, but dental health, dental hygiene is important even at that moment in their lives. It has started even in utero. Talk about what we know and don’t know about children’s dental health from the time they’re conceived.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (01:34):
Yes. So we do know that their teeth are being formed in utero, like you said. The biggest thing with dentistry, and specifically pediatric dentistry, it tends to be overlooked. We hear all the time that baby teeth don’t matter, but they really set the stage for oral health down the line. So we know a single cavity in a baby tooth triples your risk of cavities in the adult teeth. So we want to take that seriously. We want to set the stage early for a good foundation. And I’m really proud to do that. And I built Firstgrin to amplify that message for families.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer(02:02):
So what don’t parents know? I know, with my kids, it was like you take them at three or four. Today, it sounds like you take them even as infants to the dentist.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (02:12):
Yeah. So guidelines from both the AAP and AAPD recommend the first dental visit at age one or six months, within the first tooth coming in. And you want to start brushing that first tooth as soon as it comes in with a soft-bristle toothbrush and a rice or a smear-sized amount of fluoride toothpaste.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (02:28):
So right away, first tooth, you’re proud of that first tooth. Get it brushed. Make sure your child has good oral hygiene from the start. The baby teeth are temporary. A lot of people say, “They’re just going to fall out. Why do I have to take care of them?” What’s your response to that?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (02:45):
Yeah. So we know cavities are kids’ number one chronic disease. It can cause a lot of pain. It could be linked to lost school, speech issues, lack of eating, lack of sleep. So we really want to take it seriously. Cavities move faster in the baby teeth, so they could start causing pain earlier. And they don’t fall out as early as people tend to think. I don’t even know if people think about it, to be honest. But we tend to keep, especially our back baby teeth, until we’re 12, 13 years old. So they last a long time, and they tend to need treatment earlier.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (03:13):
We used to call those the 12-year-old molars. But you’re right. By the time you’re 12, you’re starting to lose the last of those teeth. And they’ve been there for all of those 12 years, catching who knows what in between the teeth and within the gums. So it’s really important to take care of those baby teeth and look toward the future. How does dental health interact with overall health?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (03:39):
So when we’re older, we know there’s correlation between diabetes and periodontal or gum disease. We know there’s correlation with heart disease as well. Specifically, one thing we didn’t discuss before, but when we do have a mix of baby and adult teeth, a lot of people don’t think about that. When you have sick or cavity-riddled baby teeth in your mouth, bad cavity bacteria can spread to the adult teeth. So you really want to take that seriously to protect oral health for the adult teeth down the line, too.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (04:03):
Mom’s health and mom’s oral health really has an influence on baby, on child. Talk about that.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (04:11):
Yeah. So there’s correlation between mom’s oral health and fetal outcome, whether that’s preeclampsia, low birth weight, gestational diabetes. But what we know for sure is mom’s oral health status, so if she has cavities, she’s way more likely to pass that onto her baby. So we don’t recommend that parent shares utensils with child, kisses baby on the mouth, things like that unless we make sure that mom doesn’t have that cavity-causing bacteria in her mouth.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer r (04:36):
When a woman is pregnant, should they be thinking about the oral health of their baby?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (04:42):
Yeah. So we should be thinking about twofold. So, a pregnant mom should be thinking about her own oral health too, because ACOG recommends that pregnant moms go to the dentist for a preventive checkup. It’s safe and recommended. A lot of people may be scared, or some dentists may say we don’t treat pregnant people. We hear that all the time. So they get lost in this limbo and get confused. But dentists should take you in for a checkup. But yeah, taking care of your own oral health to set the stage for your baby down the line is important.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (05:07):
I think the tradition, the culture allows for us to, many times, and this is more true I think with men, we go to the dentist when we have a problem. I know my husband doesn’t like to go unless there’s something hurting. How can we flip that to a prevention model for not just men, but men, women, and children?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (05:27):
Yeah. I mean, I think there’s so many ways to think about it. I think if you go in for a problem, you can raise a lot of fear, anxiety around it, ends up being more expensive. There are just so many factors that we tend to think about that get layered on each other when we wait for those painful visits. But we also know that the earlier you bring a baby in for their preventive visit, the cheaper it’ll be long term. There are studies that show if you bring a baby in by age one, it’s going to be less than double the cost than if you bring them at age four. It’s really interesting to look at it longitudinally, too.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (05:56):
What are some of the habits you’ve seen in children, fostered by their parents, that are not necessarily healthy for their teeth? Bottles, I know, and feeding them juice in bottles, letting them fall asleep was a big one.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (06:10):
Big one.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer r (06:11):
What else?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (06:12):
That’s probably the biggest one and gets overlooked. Sleeping with milk, falling asleep with milk in the mouth because of the frequency of exposure to the teeth. I think people have that disconnect, especially when you’re trying to sleep and feed your baby that first year of life, and your baby will only sleep with a bottle of milk. People are like, “You know what? They’re baby teeth, they’re going to fall out. We’re just going to put them down with a bottle.”
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There are small ways to amend that, like trying to wipe or brush their teeth after, that’s one. First thing in the morning, brushing their teeth, we always recommend that. And just working with parents to make it practical instead of filled with shame and guilt. Because parents are just, honestly, I feel like they’re doing their best always, and they don’t think about this stuff. They come to us, and they’re confused why there’s disease. So we just need to plug it into the conversation.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (06:54):
They’re doing their best, but they’re also exhausted, especially in that first year of life of a child.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (06:59):
Totally.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (07:00):
So sometimes you trade off, and maybe the trade-offs aren’t as good for the baby. But you’re not even thinking about it because you need rest.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (07:08):
So I think I always say progress over perfection. So if you can’t do everything rigidly, and parenting is not perfect. Never. It never will be. So just being realistic, gentle on yourself, and trying to make as good as possible for the whole family.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (07:20):
Now we talked about that first appointment. Do you need to take a child to a pediatric dentist, or is it okay to take them to the family dentist that I’ve been seeing since who knows when?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (07:32):
Yeah. So you definitely can take them to a family dentist as long as they’re willing to take them. There’s a lot of messaging and miscommunication around this for that first visit. It is recommended, like we said, for that age-one dental visit. But even some dental professionals will say, “Don’t come in until they’re later. Wait till three, wait till five.” But a lot of the habits and behavior are established then. And we already see kids coming in with mouths full of cavities that early. And at that point, we do need to treat them because they tend to grow really fast, and they’ll start to bother them before those teeth fall out.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (08:01):
What are those first appointments like? Walk me through them.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (08:04):
Yeah. Yeah. First visit is a lot of what we call anticipatory guidance. So we really set the stage for what to expect, what you should be doing at home, talking about diet and nutrition. We show you how to brush your kids’ teeth because no one really knows how to do that. There’s a lot of flailing, especially with toddlerhood. They’re trying to fight you for independence. So we give you some positioning tips, recommendations for products, things like that. It’s really setting a stage in making what we call a dental home.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (08:28):
Not all families have access to dental care. I know a lot of community health centers do provide dental care to kind of make up for that in some of the underserved communities in our nation. How can we better address the access issue?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (08:45):
I mean, that is such an amazing question. I think amplifying resources to educate parents at home and meet them where they are is a big one. Trying to set the stage early at home with nutrition, diet, so they’re aware. Working alongside pediatricians, OB/GYNs, and physicians. We as dental professionals need to step up and plug into the medical system overall, so there’s not so much of a siloed approach to healthcare. And dentistry often falls to the wayside. The insurance aspect can be confusing. But we really want to plug into the system and work alongside communities to help increase access to care.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer(09:17):
Do you think there’s policy that can be brought to bear to kind of help unite dental care with the greater healthcare system?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (09:24):
Yeah, of course. I mean, I think there’s so much conversation around it. It’s such a hot topic right now in the public health world. But again, I think number one is the messaging and amplification, getting everyone on the same page around it. Because a lot of people are scared of fluoride right now for whatever reason, though we know it’s a great public health initiative for dentistry, specifically kids, specifically kids who can’t get to the dentist. It’s a really great safety net for their oral health. So having clear communication about the science and what’s safe is really important.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (09:52):
Let’s talk about the education piece. Part of that first appointment, you noted, is educating the parents. Who else in the greater sphere of that child needs to know about dental health? Grandparents, educators, and how do we go about reaching them?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (10:08):
Yeah, I love that. Definitely grandparents, caretakers, nannies, babysitters, whoever it may be. If you may not be putting your baby down to sleep, going through the routine for what you expect in terms of toothbrushing, not sleeping with a bottle of milk. And simple things like that. Talking about the snack schedule. And food really is a big part of that. We don’t want to obsess, but it should be part of the conversation.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (10:28):
One thing about you is that you have a very strong social media presence. You are the mommy dentist. And you get questions, I’m sure, from families. What are some of the typical questions you get or concerns that they bring forward that maybe we could answer here?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (10:44):
Yeah, I love that you bring that to mind. I built that up for that reason, so people had a resource that felt relatable to turn to. So the two hot topics I feel like are fluoride and X-rays when it comes to kids.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (10:55):
Talk about X-rays. What are the concerns? I think I know, but tell us.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (10:58):
Yeah. So people are concerned about the radiation, though we know that at the dosage that they’re exposed to, it’s extremely safe, and it’s a necessary tool for us to diagnose properly when teeth are touching. We can’t see in between the teeth with our eyeballs, so we need to make sure we catch things early with X-rays. By the time that we see a cavity in the mouth, it’s usually progressed to a point where we need to treat it. If, on the other hand, we take X-rays and we see the beginning of something starting, we could be more conservative and take a more gentle approach.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (11:25):
At what age do the X-rays start?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (11:28):
So it’s not age-dependent, more individual-dependent. So it depends where teeth are touching. That’s generally where it’s recommended.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (11:36):
Tell me about Firstgrin. This is pretty unique.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (11:39):
So my first job out of residency, I was seeing about 80 to 100 patients a day, and the same pain point kept coming up. Parents were never told how to take care of their kids’ teeth. Their kids would come in with cavities. So I wanted to create a way to amplify this message to get to all families. So I created Firstgrin. It’s an oral health tech platform. So it’s an app and a web-based solution. So people can turn to it. It’s all evidence-based. FAQs, we did focus groups. But it’s where you can turn to find answers, find a dentist, call a tele-dentist. It’s just supposed to be an evidence-based pocket guide. And we send out oral care kits with products to make it fun and engaging.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer(12:16):
Is there one particular product, you’re here at HLTH, that you’re kind of highlighting?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (12:20):
So our hero product is the intro oral care kit.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (12:23):
Tell me about that.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (12:23):
So yes, yes. We’re really, really excited about it. This is really how we merge medicine and dentistry. So we work alongside insurance companies, employers, or just pregnant moms in the baby shower space, and send out these intro oral care kits with what to use, how to use it, and when. So it really sets the stage early when you’re not thinking about oral care, but when your baby starts teething, you turn to this kit, and you have everything you need in there.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (12:44):
I love that as a baby shower gift.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (12:46):
It was so unintentional, but we started seeing them blow up and receiving a lot of pictures. And people were really excited about it. And that’s what I wanted to do. People aren’t excited about preventive oral health or prevention in general. Especially when it comes to oral care, we’re problem-focused, so I like being proactive about that.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (13:02):
Tell me about the problem you were solving. I think I know, but I want you to lay that out for us.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (13:09):
The biggest problem is that we know cavities are kids’ number one chronic disease, and often preventable. So people don’t have the tools or information early on. We’re just kind of vaguely told to go to the dentist at age one, or whatever it may be. And people often put it off for whatever reason. They can’t find a dentist. So we wanted to give people the tools at home where the habits are being built to give them the autonomy in that situation.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (13:29):
When you were talking with parents, and you have a great connection with parents through your social media, how did that influence the development of the app and the product?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (13:37):
Everything we did was listening to our customer, AKA parents. We changed our product and solution so many times based on what they liked and what they didn’t like. And we continue to do that because I think that’s the most important thing. We want to engage people at the level that they’re at.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (13:50):
As we talk about the underlying ecosystem of support, how do we create that so that they have lifelong dental health that is going to help us keep our teeth into our 90s, into 100?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (14:06):
Yeah, I love that question. We are trying to figure that out. And again, it comes down to prevention, education, not just for an individual, but for the family unit. So, making sure parents can get to the dentist, making sure grandparents can get to the dentist. And having those resources within the home so we can have fluoridated toothpaste, floss pickers, and driving those behaviors where it really, really makes a difference.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (14:26):
Now, how do you deal with this with your own children who are on the young side? Talk about that.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (14:31):
So I started Firstgrin before I had kids, and I had my kids two years ago, pretty much. And it’s been so eye-opening because my older one, he’s two and a half, hates toothbrushing. He’s not someone who loves toothbrushing. So I call it I’m like blessed to do that because I have to be creative with solutions for so many parents who come to me, and they’re like, “What do I do? My child’s running around. I don’t know how to do this.” And figuring out positions or ways to do it or ways to talk about it has been only helpful for the conversation. Makes parents feel less alone and like they’re not going through these struggles alone.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (15:00):
Did it change the way you started looking at this topic?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (15:04):
Yeah. Just parenting in general makes me so much more aware, honestly. Just so much more grace-giving. Not that I didn’t have that before. I was just totally unaware and disconnected. And not just in the dental world, but if we’re going through the airport, my toddler is running around. I’m like making eye contact with another mom in solidarity and like saluting them.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (15:26):
That’s the mommy cue that you’re doing it right.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (15:28):
Yes.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (15:29):
Now I know that poor oral health can impact everything, including school readiness. Talk about that a little bit.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (15:37):
Yeah. So it really comes down to pain or the psychosocial way that we look. So there are a lot of things that oral health falls under. So even for myself, when I was younger, my adult teeth were coming in. One of my teeth would stick out when I closed my mouth. I was so self-conscious. I would tell my mom I didn’t want to go to school. Refused, refused because I would get bullied around it. And I think those are things that we get disconnected from or forget about. And we’re like, “Oh, you’re just a child. You’re going through this phase.” It’s easy for us as adults to kind of prompt them to push through it. But I think we need to get to their level and see that it’s not just baby teeth that’ll fall out, not just their teeth, but it just shapes the whole individual.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (16:12):
And it also can lead to cardiac disease later in life, diabetes later in life. Talk about that.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (16:19):
Yeah. So the correlation usually comes down to inflammation. And we don’t know. It’s a very complex system, and we’re just starting to bring dental into the conversation. So I think that’s even more reason to plug it in, do more research, and have more conversations around it.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer(16:31):
Where is the research on all of that? It sounds like there might be a dearth of it from what you’re saying.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin(16:36):
There is a dearth of it, both in the medical world, again, in the cardiac space, as well as in the dental world, usually in the periodontal space or the gum space.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (16:45):
Where do you want to see the oral health pediatric space in a year, five years, 10 years?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (16:52):
So I consider the pediatric space where prevention truly starts. Because we have a newborn baby, no teeth. That’s truly where you can prevent disease. So I would love for pediatric or preventive dentistry to plug in at the OB/GYN or pediatric medical level. So if we can plug in these resources there, we really can have an influential effect down the line in a family’s life.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (17:13):
Do you also treat adolescents?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (17:16):
Yeah. So pediatric dentistry really depends on need. So if you have adult dental needs, let’s say a root canal, you may get referred to a different dentist. It depends on the individual practitioner’s level of comfort. But pediatric dentistry also encompasses special needs dentistry across all ages. So we kind of do a lot.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (17:33):
Tell me about that. Special needs dentistry. What is that?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin(17:36):
Yeah. So, patients who may have special needs. I know I trained at Morgan Stanley Children’s Hospital. So we worked with a lot of patients who had complex medical needs, whether they’re going through cancer treatment, whether they have Down syndrome. So we know there’s complex medical necessities that come along with that. So we really make sure we’re on the same level as a medical provider, and we’re treating the right level of care, doing it in a safe way, doing it in the operating room if we have to. So the conversation really does go on a deep level in the medical way, and I think people can overlook that in dentistry.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer(18:05):
So chemotherapy affects the entirety of the body, including the teeth?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (18:10):
Yes. The mouth. Yeah, exactly. Drying out the mouth, oral mucositis, those types of things.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (18:14):
I think people don’t really think of that, do they?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (18:16):
That’s exactly right.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer(18:18):
What about adolescents? Do they have special concerns? Do you have special concerns for adolescents with regard to their teeth, and what can we do to improve those?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (18:26):
There are a lot of different conversations when it comes to adolescents. A lot of the times it comes down to smoking, vaping, diet, things that we may be exposed to in those senses. So we really want to have strong conversations around that. In terms of the dental world, bringing in orthodontics, so braces bring on a whole new level of trying to clean your teeth properly. And with adolescents, they have their own level of independence because parents aren’t holding them down and brushing their teeth. So, trying to give them the autonomy and independence, but at the same time fostering the habits for them.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (18:55):
And they might also have orthodontia, which complicates things even more.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (18:59):
That’s right.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (19:00):
What’s next for Firstgrin?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (19:02):
So we’re so excited to bring Firstgrin into the health space. We’re working with children’s hospitals. We’re working with medical providers to send these out to new and expecting families. And I’m just so proud to keep amplifying this mission through the digital space and getting this to people to increase the access to care.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer(19:18):
Do you have any AI involvement in Firstgrin?
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (19:22):
Yeah, we do in terms of streamlining the backend of the app. But a lot of the product and tech-facing app features are straightforward. We’re not reinventing the wheel when it comes to prevention education. We’re just delivering it in a smarter way. But AI on the backend for things that the business runs on.
Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer (19:40):
Amazing stuff. Ashley Lerman, DDS, board-certified pediatric dentist, and CEO and founder at Firstgrin. Mom of two as well, probably the most important. Thank you so much for being with us on the Nemours Well Beyond Medicine Podcast.
Ashley Lerman, DDS, Founder & CEO, Firstgrin (19:55):
Thank you so much for having me.
Dr. Ashley Lerman is a Board-Certified Pediatric Dentist and the CEO & Founder at Firstgrin, a toddler dental kit that promotes lifelong dental health.
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Carol Vassar, podcast host/producer
Our interview with Dr. Lerman was recorded in October 2025 at HLTH in Las Vegas and is part of a series of podcast episodes recorded at that time featuring healthcare leaders from across various sectors, speaking to the work they’re doing that positively impacts children’s health. Still more of those interviews and episodes to come right here on the Nemours Well Beyond Medicine Podcast. Check out this series and all of our podcast episodes via your favorite podcast app and smart speaker, the Nemours YouTube Channel, and on our website: nemourswellbeyond.org. Visit there to leave a podcast episode idea, a review, or subscribe to the podcast and our monthly e-newsletter. That address again is nemourswellbeyond.org.
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Join us next time as we hear from the social media influencer and family physician, Dr. Bayo Curry-Winchell, about her efforts to disseminate accurate health information that is as informative as it is entertaining. I’m Carol Vassar. Until then, remember, we can change children’s health for good, well beyond medicine.
